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Dr. Tadeusz Lemańczyk
Institute of Management Engineering
If we were the MIT OpenCourseWare discussants ... 30/03/2006, 6:38 pm [ Answer ]  
Dr. Wassila Naamani Mehanna wrote:
Please let me know your thoughts.

Surely you know their enterprise ( http://ocw.mit.edu/index.html ). There are already many courses available at this time ( http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Global/all-courses.htm ), including video and audio lectures ( http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Global/OCWHelp/avocw.htm ). However, their Achilles’ heel seems to be Discussions For Courses area ( http://mit.ols.usu.edu/courses/ ). What would we do if we were the MIT OpenCourseWare discussants?

Also educators, students, and self-learners interested in "Course 17.196 / 17.195: Globalization" are invited to interact with others utilizing the course materials in their teaching and learning through the Discussion Group for that course ( http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Political-Science/17-196Fall-2005/DiscussionGroup/index.htm ). Nonetheless, there ( http://mit.ols.usu.edu/courses/showforum?ForumID=605 ) hasn't appeared any message so far. Should Prof. Suzanne Berger send also there her reading questions ( http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Political-Science/17-196Fall-2005/Readings/index.htm )? Many of them are good stimulants to fruitful discussions. However, are they stimulants to economic discussions only? Is there room for discussing cultural aspects of globalization such as those which appeared in the comment "Kono bunshou ni wa, sakusha no kimochi ga yoku arawasarete imasu." ( http://atvn.pl/index_sub_page.php?atvn=archiwum/index&title=FORUM&icm=forum_post&post=list&ID=2004-07-05/1 ) on Toshio Kobayashi's address "Internationalism and education reform in Japan: e-learning as a possible solution for survival" ( http://real.atvn.pl/archiwum_pliki/internationalism_in_japan.ram )? Ought therefore Prof. Suzanne Berger to mention Prof. Ian Condry's course 21F.035 / 21F.037 Topics in Culture and Globalization, Fall 2003 (http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Foreign-Languages-and-Literatures/21F-035Fall2003/CourseHome/index.htm )? Will educators, students, and self-learners interested in it click the link "Vote for New Course(s)" on the page at http://mit.ols.usu.edu/courses ? Are you interested in joining them with the messages commenting on, for example, Dr. Siva Vaidhyanathan's 1 hour, 8 minutes Cybercast "The Anarchist in the Library: The Moral Panics over Copyright and Free Speech" ( http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Foreign-Languages-and-Literatures/21F-035Fall2003/Readings/index.htm > http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/lectures/vaidhyanathan.html > http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/lectures/video/vaidhyanathan.ram )? Click then the link "Register" ( http://mit.ols.usu.edu/registerform )! By the way, are you interested in commenting on Steve Krug and Lou Rosenfeld's 1 hour, 41 minutes Cybercast "Krug and Rosenfeld on loc.gov: An Interactive Evaluation" ( http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/lectures/sklr.html ) within the subject "One of the most important answers is E-RESOURCES" ( https://www.academici.com/cgi-bin/forum.fpl?op=showarticles&id=1362751 )? :-)

Regards,

Tad
Dr. Wassila Naamani Mehanna
Independent Consultant, London - UK
Re: Meta-tagging and re-usability 30/03/2006, 7:14 pm [ Answer ]  
Thank you, Tad, for your input and the links provided.

Unfortunately, the links to the MIT forums are rstricted to members, so I was unable to comment on that.

However, in reponse to your query in relation to Steve Krug and Lou Rosenfeld calls for effective use of the information.

Please find herewith my comments:
Their ideas revolve around the usability of the information and storing it in repositories (data banks) according to the concept of Learning Objects (LO) for immediate retrieval as well as re-using it within different contexts.

A learning object is an independent and self-standing unit of learning content that is predisposed to reuse in multiple instructional contexts.

For example, a typical three-hour course may be composed of several dozen content objects each of which may have several included media elements which can generate anywhere from 1,000 to 5,000 separate metadata values for a three hour course.

The effective way to retrieve part of this information that might be needed in another course for example rather than re-entering it another time is to 'tag it' using the mata-tagging standards or norms. The way this works is as follows is by using:
- The simplest element type is a free text field.
- A second common element type has an associated vocabulary.
- A third type of element uses an external taxonomy or classification schema.

By doing so we separate content from context (data bank) and we guarantee:

Accessibility: the LO should be tagged with metadata so that it can be stored and referenced in DB
Reusability: once, created, a LO should function in different instructional contexts
Interoperability: the LO should be independent of both delivery media and knowledge management systems.

These concepts have led to a new emerging field that revolves around designing the architecture of data-banks where Steve Krug and Lou Rosenfeld are currently promoting their expertise.

best wishes

Wassila
Dr. Tadeusz Lemańczyk
Institute of Management Engineering
If you had been the MIT OpenCourseWare discussant ... 31/03/2006, 1:19 pm [ Answer ]  
Dr. Wassila Naamani Mehanna wrote:
Unfortunately, the links to the MIT forums are rstricted to members,
so I was unable to comment on that.

Continuing yesterday's imaginary situation (If we were the MIT OpenCourseWare discussants ...) I've decided to contrast my possible situation (If I am the MIT OpenCourseWare discussant ...) with your impossible situation and I registered there in order to vote for Prof. Ian Condry's course 21F.035 / 21F.037 Topics in Culture and Globalization, Fall 2003 and to send just minutes ago the message "academici and OLS Coverage of MIT OCW" on the forum Discussing: 17.196 Globalization, Fall 2005 ( http://mit.ols.usu.edu/courses/showforum?ForumID=605 ).

"How can we make the online discussions effective and why?" :-)

Regards,

Tad

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This article was modified on 31/03/2006 at 01:31 pm.
Wayne Needoba
LIS / OSCM Group (Thailand)
Re: Meanings of the backbone first ;-) 08/04/2006, 06:03 am [ Answer ]  
Hi Dr. Lemanczyk,
How relevant this comment is. Have been in discussion with N Marion Hage and Dr. Ananya Guha in the "Anatomy of Love" group on the processes for building backbone. Will bring their attention to this.

Regarding discussion, Dr. Peter Senge has written a book called The Fifth Discipline, the Art and Practise of a Learning Organization. The fifth discipline is systems thinking.

In it he discusses how the complexities of seeing consequences in society today, due to time and space, make it impossible to convey ideas using language only as its linear in presentation. The consequences of an action or thought can only be seen through seeing circles of causality. He suggests some basic archetypes be used for effective conveyance of ideas and consequences therein.

I've suggested that a pilot project for learning be set up in Mumbai, that being a land full of chaos, to demonstrate a new vehicle for learning in business and community.

The theme of the pilot project would be to use the digital media to provide awareness education and a commercial model that allowed the society to grow in its competence of social responsibility through intrinsically motivating feedback, in relation to the issues of health, environment, safety and quality.

This would create the backbone for community growth through discussion (interactive multimedia discussion with intrinsically motivationg feedback in the commercial model to create an ideology of sustainability).
Best Regards,
Wayne.

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This article was modified on 08/04/2006 at 06:07 am.
Dr. Tadeusz Lemańczyk
Institute of Management Engineering
I love to e-learn (and to e-teach too) 09/04/2006, 10:08 am [ Answer ]  
Wayne Needoba wrote:
Mumbai, that being a land full of chaos

Who of you will examine the discussion thread "Writing About Love" ( https://www.academici.com/cgi-bin/forum.fpl?op=showarticles&id=1208868&offset=0 ) faster than within a workday? I've examined it yesterday and was wondered at "Re^10: Further Clarification" (2006-04-02, 1:45) which seemed to open a quite distinct chapter of that enormous discussion thread.

Is therefore Mumbai a land full of chaos in the meaning of chaos which characterized the USA especially at the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries? Such a meaning seems to appear in Thrity Umrigar's opinion "Bombay is India's America -- the promised land, the city where rags-to-riches stories are written daily" ( http://www.boston.com/ae/books/articles/2004/10/24/return_to_the_promise_of_bombay/ ), doesn't it?

By the way, many people hold that Cinderella is the archetype of rags-to-riches pattern. Do they apply the word archetype in the meaning "The original pattern or model from which copies are made; a prototype" used by me at https://www.academici.com/cgi-bin/forum.fpl?op=showarticles&id=1021224 or in the meaning " In the psychology of C. G. Jung: a pervasive idea, image, or symbol that forms part of the collective unconscious" used by Nate at https://www.academici.com/cgi-bin/forum.fpl?op=showarticles&id=1208868&offset=30 ? ;-)

Regards,

Tad
Wayne Needoba
LIS / OSCM Group (Thailand)
Re: I love to e-learn (and to e-teach too) 10/04/2006, 1:26 pm [ Answer ]  
Hello Tad,

The discussion thread evolved from Ananya’s search for the Anatomy of Love. The thread is “building a backbone” that can allow for learning, though this term has come to me through you..

Your hyper linking skill & knowing the relevance to the issues are certainly second to none. You keep one scurrying around the web digging up treasures that you’ve laid. A very effective teacher you are.

Few might understand, but you have introduced the thread (backbone) for creating a system of learning and collaboration in the streets of Bombay, should that society be able to realize its purpose for wanting to learn.

On the side technically, I assume you create your document outside of Academici and then paste it in, but please share how to do the hyperlinks.

The "Bombay is India's America -- the promised land, the city where rags-to-riches stories are written daily" did state “For Indians of a certain age and sensibility”.

From a cultural perspective, I don’t think America is the example of what would happen in Bombay from a pilot project perspective. America has never seen this chaos, partly because they didn’t integrate with a native culture, they just eliminated it (like the British couldn't do in Zimbawe, not being critical, but as an example of fruitless change). The British maintained what they brought with them, so when they left, it makes me cry to finish the sentence.

Certainly Ms Condalisa Rice did manage to grow out of one culture into another, but I don't see where she brought a culture with her. In the culture she joined, guys like Colin Powell cared, so likely he will be remembered more in history than the impact that administration had building a sustainable humanity.

Bombay has "estates" of amazing beauty, wealth and culture. Just put "Reliance Industries" in google and you can see some awesome capabilities. However, what exists on the other side of the wall in relation to chaos, I’ve not witnessed before and without change, living with a backbone, Reliance will not be able to grow to its full potential or be sustainable.

My background associates me with being "poor" from my fathers side, second generation in Canada, from Poland / Austria. The family lived through Saskatchewan winters in a mud huts around 1900's, but they had inherited a sophistication for managing the land and environment in a farming situation that was 200 years old, and way beyond anything I experienced in Bombay at that level of society (there are plenty of beautiful and ingenius people in Bombay, but I'm speaking here holistically, in relation to having archetypes that maintain a sustainable society in the current knowledge based economy thats going global). Birth control isn't the solution.

Europeans, and later Americans gained something from the Persians and Romans that the British could never deliver to the African and Indian cultures. The missing link, the thread is the Anatomy of Love. The “backbone” as you refer to it, and has little to do with the Holy Grail.

Holistically, the British learning system failed because it didn’t understand the value and purpose of the backbone. My experience with Canadian, Australian and American education systems has allowed a feeling to creep into my thinking that is motivating me to say what I'm saying. To bring sustainable development, and change (learning), into a culture, there needs to be, encapsulated with the skill development an anatomy of love.

That’s the thread that Ananya and Nate brought to the table. Coincidentally, through spiritual ingenuity, Bombay was chosen for a pilot project in e-learning based around awareness building and using some key archetypes that allow participants in each community to see the circles of causality (Peter Senge, The Fifth Discipline). The pilot project will show the world that we are still babies in learning how to learn (Dr. Trinidad Hunt).

What more can I say except have a look at Prof. Dr. Claus Dierksmeier's http://www.public-integration.de/index.php?templateid=news&a... which I don't know how to hyperlink, but he did.

Best Regards,
Wayne

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This article was modified on 10/04/2006 at 03:17 pm.
Dr. Tadeusz Lemańczyk
Institute of Management Engineering
The no chaotic Mumbai 21/04/2006, 09:05 am [ Answer ]  
Wayne Needoba wrote:
Just put "Reliance Industries" in google and you can see some awesome capabilities.

I see them also with the help of other means. My daughter ( https://www.academici.com/hp/Liliana_Lemanczyk/ ), as you know, is a linguistics ( http://www.staff.amu.edu.pl/~ifpuam/ ) student. For a few days, she has been a trainee reporter at EXPOVORTAL ( http://www.expovortal.com/ ). No wonder I surf there often to check on her progress. :-) She specializes in "heavy industry and ecology" ( http://www.expovortal.com/category.php?param_id=128 ) and in "beauty and health" ( http://www.expovortal.com/category.php?param_id=45 ). Her associate Sławomir Rapior who specializes in "fashion, jewelry" wrote yesterday the news item "The jewelry offer in Mumbai" ( http://www.expovortal.com/article.php?param_id=3051 ). Through the link pasted to this news item he mentions not only INDIA INTERNATIONAL JEWELLERY SHOW 2006 ( http://www.iijs.org/iijs06/default.aspx ) but also Broadcast India 2006 ( http://www.saicom.com/broadcastindia/ ). There Mumbai is described as "A city which moves at a frenetic pace" ( http://www.saicom.com/broadcastindia/why_mumbai.htm ).

I don’t think America is the example of what would happen in Bombay

I think that Mumbai "frenetic [showing frenzied (full of uncontrolled excitement and/or wild activity) activity] pace" deserves today the same song which New York deserved in 1924 ( http://www.camden.rutgers.edu:8080/ramgen/awoll/Fascinating.rm and http://lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/f/fascinatingrhythm.shtml ).

To bring sustainable development, and change (learning), into a culture, there needs to be, encapsulated with the skill development an anatomy of love.

The above aspect of social development worries me too [Courting couples on Marine Drive, many of whom are college students or those working in the nearby business district, were told by the police that no "indecent behaviour" in public would be tolerated. So kissing and sitting on the lap of your lover was out, while holding hands was OK. -- Bombay morality drive under fire. By Sanjeev Srivastava. ( http://www.mumbainet.com/magazine/morality.htm )]. ;-)

Regards,

Tad
Wayne Needoba
LIS / OSCM Group (Thailand)
Re: The no chaotic Mumbai 21/04/2006, 10:42 am [ Answer ]  
Hi Tad,

There are possibilities here with daughters. I have 4 and they live around the world carrying as many as 3 passports. See http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1301351/ . A Vancouver movie tech. The name would be Niedoba if she found her heritage. I only know of her doings through google. We now have something in common.

Coincidentally, I caught an interview with Sheku Kapur on BBC. His dream is to make a movie that stirs Mumbai to clean up its water. Maybe Ananya could introduce our daughters to Sheku Kapur and get this show on the road.

As suggested by Nate and Ananya, the speak would be in a paradigm defined by the anatomy of love.

The goal, building a backbone in the Mumbai community that empowers residents to attain sustainable water and energy capabilities.

Once the empowerment process is in place, then apply the e-learning to teach the technical and science skills to effect the solutions that optimizes their life around water and energy.

I wonder if the girls would do it on their own! I've suggested a man should be involved to make any initiative whole. If looks could kill I would have passed away years ago. However, how many real men are in the world, and if not..... wonder why?

I've been divorced twice so haven't set the right example, my family umbrella is very leaky. Not good from the perspective of being sustainable.

However, not ready to give up. In 1994, I introduced the concept of CD based learning to the UNDP in Thailand. A prototype was made for training drug control customs and police law enforcement officers in Asia using English and Thai.

By 1999, the program was facilitated as a full blown initiative. The project funds were acquired based on the protatype produced in Thailand. The prototype came through the inspiration of an induction program done for drilling rigs in Australia (Autorware / Mac in 1994).

The UNDP is now delivering customs and police training in 18 languages, all produced in Thailand by a guy who made the prototype for 7000 dlrs. However, the model and inspiration for the first creation was created at a much higher cost and there were many voluntary hours spend by the UNDP police advisor and myself.

To conclude, the training (I don't call it learning because a lesson is never learned unless there is a behavioral change) is now deemed the most successful the UN has ever done.

They have a learning management system monitoring progress of the officers over past 4 years. Ananya could do a case study for creating the Mumbai's solution. Monetarily, I had spent over US$70k progressing the concept and searching for a founder of the prototype (UN spent US$27K).

There was no personal financial return to me but now I have the vision to create the outcomes for a Mumbai project. There is sufficient data there to empower Reliance Industries' Chairman to be a sponsor and mentor.

So, my worth financially is small but my capability as a servant leader holds the possibility of being much greater.

The reason the UNDP training is much more successful than class room seminars etc., is that the CD Rom training is delivered in the language and culture of the student at their place and time. There still needs to be the sharing and collaborating internationally, but now its done around a more social and relaxed agenda.

The 700 dlrs a day teacher consultants can't compete with the just in time, when you need it CD. As a bonus, every interaction is tracked and competence development of each student measured.

However, there is still something missing. Its the backbone you have brought to our attention....

The officer can be inclined to close the eyes and let the precursor chemical or drug pass through because a better financial offer has been put on the table. I appreciate this wouldn't happen in Mumbai, but its pretty common place in other parts of the world (see http://www.chron.com/news/specials/enron/).

In conclusion, there are law enforcement officers with the greatest of skills, but somehow the bad guy can still slip away. So its back to backbone. Does a real man have to have one for a lady to want to be a lady.

Personally, I get excited talking about such stuff. Hope its not boring for others.

Regards,
Wayne.
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This article was modified on 21/04/2006 at 06:13 pm.
Wayne Needoba
LIS / OSCM Group (Thailand)
Re: The no chaotic Mumbai 24/04/2006, 11:18 am [ Answer ]  
Hi Tad,

Came across news article "Canadian company finds treasures, big business in other people's garbage" http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/3814349.html

Maybe not totally relevant, but when combined with movie making, this illustrates the opportunity for self development of sustainability in the lifestyles of communities filled with chaos.

With backbone that leads to empowerment, and a commercial mechanism to facilitate transparent trading, miracles become possible.

Along the same line are houses from trash.

There are several companies in America who collect plastic trash to make "planks" and "timber". These become durable housing and liner material where heavy traffic supports are needed. Traditionally all this comes from the forest..

These opportunities, using the crumbs of the wealthy, combined with movie based self sustainable learning systems, could transform the chaos in Mumbai and lead it to being a model city for the world to follow.

However, without the backbone and empowerment, the e-learning will be ineffective and unsustainable, as classroom learning currently is for many.

Regards,
Wayne.

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This article was modified on 24/04/2006 at 11:38 am.
Dr. Tadeusz Lemańczyk
Institute of Management Engineering
eLearned by Garbage 24/04/2006, 7:21 pm [ Answer ] [ Edit ]
Hi, Wayne! I see that you have decided to inspire me. Let it be. :-) At https://www.academici.com/cgi-bin/forum.fpl?op=showarticles&id=1208868&articleid=1523242#1523242 you write "Tad in the e-learning section has confirmed that culture is the first step." Well, as a matter of fact in my humble opinion culture shouldn't be the last step. Let's surf to Wikipedia! There ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage ) are nature and technology first. However, there is also culture ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_(band) ). With the help of the band Garbage, it is possible to diminish pejorative meaning of the expression "garbage," at least in the eyes of people like you and me, isn't it? Regarding it I'd like to recommend one of their songs ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_Is_Not_The_Enemy ). Here are the lyrics ( http://www.garbage.com/discog/index.php?view=song&id=46 ) and the video drawn from the web page "popkulturjunkie.de musik. filme. fernsehen. literatur. popkultur. ich." ( http://www.popkulturjunkie.de/wp/?p=1244 ). What do you think about it, Ralf ( https://www.academici.com/cgi-bin/forum.fpl?op=showarticles&id=1522394 )?

Regards,

Tad
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